Discussion : Gmc Endorsement/validation Program |
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Discussion : Gmc Endorsement/validation Program |
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Jan 23 2009, 07:43 PM |
Kris, Smells and I have been chatting this week about Dave Walliman's excellent idea of using lesson difficulties as some sort of progress or rank indication at GMC - we threw a few ideas around and have come up with a basic idea, but we wanted to throw this out to you, the members for some open discussion and brainstorming!
The basic idea is that GMC members can earn points by playing a lesson to a competent level - this could start out as a kind of honor thing, but eventually could be made into some sort of validated GMC diploma perhaps, with support in the site to handle this if it takes off. We basically figured out that there are 2 separate important measures, both based on lesson levels, and completion of individual lessons to a satisfactory level. Adding the number of lessons completed over time will give an indication of keenness and also breadth of experience, whereas averaging them would give a good indication of skill level. We agreed that both were important, and would prevent someone getting to a high level by playing many low level lessons - if I learn 10 level 1 lessons I am not the same player who learns 1 level 10 lesson. The first is more diverse but less skilled - the second is more skilled, less diverse. With the 2 scores in place, this would be better reflected, as player one would have a score of 10 but an average of 1, the second would have a score of 1 but an average of 10. We could call the number of lessons completed the "Experience" and the Average difficulty the "Level" Player 1 : Ex=10,Lvl=1 Player 2 ; Ex=1,Lvl=10 I actually think that gives a very useful track of what each player has achieved - what do you guys think? The next step is to decide how to track this - initially we decided to start simply as we always do, with a thread that we could rollup the sores into so that everyone could see how it works out, or perhaps a wiki page. Ultimately this could be added as a part of the site. We would also want to reflect this somehow as a badge or level indication under each student's Avatar. The next issue is how we adjudicate this - we kicked a couple of ideas around here - a panel of Seniors perhaps, but with some instructor input. I though it would make sense to allow the instructor who wrote the lesson to make a final determination but Kris pointed out that in some cases we no longer have access to the original instructors, so we discussed having an Instructor on the Panel who would perhaps have a veto or something similar. Since this was David's idea originally, perhaps he would help out here Next we need a name for this initiative - so far I have drawn a blank but I haven't spent much time on this - "GMC Validation Program" was my first attempt, Smells came up with "GMC Endorsement Program" - any other ideas out there? Also, this would be a voluntary program as some members would enjoy and benefit from having a structure to work within, other members will dislike this approach, and shouldn't feel compelled to take part. Finally we need to figure out what all the levels are called - this is the fun part! It would be cool if we could separate the experience and level scores somehow and have a 2 part title that reflects both. Here are some ideas, but I need help with this! Level (Average Lesson Hardness): 1 - 2 Guitarist 3 - 4 Player 5 - 6 Rocker/Shredder 7 - 8 Guitar Hero 9 - 10 Guitar God Experience (Number of Completed Lessons): 1 - 20 Learning 21 - 40 Experienced 41 - 60 Accomplished 61 - 80 Very Eclectic 81 - 100 Ultimate So a guitarist with experience 30 and Level 5 would be an "Experienced Rocker" (or "Experienced Shredder") if they preferred Experience 65 level, 9 would get you "Very Eclectic Guitar Hero" Experience 10, level 3 would be "Learning Player" You get the idea, we probably need to tweak the level ranges and titles but what do you all think overall? We are looking forward to some good input and lively debate on this - as ever, it is the GMC community that shapes GMC so we want to hear from you! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Jan 23 2009, 07:53 PM |
Yep, the levels and scores did remind me a little of AD&D
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Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab |
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Jan 23 2009, 07:54 PM |
I love this idea. If you work it out a bit more, I can see it becoming a great success. The idea behind it works well on so many different levels.
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Jan 23 2009, 07:55 PM |
How can you come up with such an awesome idea? Something like this would never come to mind. This is just brilliant. I support you where I can!
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Jan 23 2009, 08:00 PM |
Yes I think the idea of settingbot level & experience is excellent as well!
Any suggestions on how to fine tune / implement this is idea is very welcome! |
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Jan 23 2009, 08:01 PM |
QUOTE Yep, the levels and scores did remind me a little of AD&D Let's limit the number of Guitar Heros and Guitar Gods. When you have enough points to be a Guitar Hero you must seek out another Guitar Hero and challenge them to a duel !!!!!! And the Guitar God???? "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!" highlander.bmp ( 318.71K ) Number of downloads: 215 I'd put Muris' face on it but all I have here at work is MS Paint..... -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Jan 23 2009, 08:05 PM |
Let's limit the number of Guitar Heros and Guitar Gods. When you have enough points to be a Guitar Hero you must seek out another Guitar Hero and challenge them to a duel !!!!!! And the Guitar God???? "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!" highlander.bmp ( 318.71K ) Number of downloads: 215 I'd put Muris' face on it but all I have here at work is MS Paint..... -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab |
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Jan 23 2009, 08:17 PM |
Wow. I didn't know that I was an ultimate guitar god! Nahh, kust jokin. I'm a learning shredder. I like this idea!
-------------------- i tripped and broke my guitar's neck. :( |
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Jan 23 2009, 08:22 PM |
Just a suggestion.. the words Validation and Endorsement don't seem to apply, possibly a different perception of those words in the US and EU.
Perhaps "Certification Program," as in "Certified by GMC," or something involving a diploma or degree program. "Certified Guitar God, CGG-GMC, -------------------- "I dreamed a lot when I was younger.. I'm older now but still I hunger For some understanding. There's no understanding, now. Was there ever? ...Joe Puerta (Ambrosia)... Finally got a YouTube page going. |
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Jan 23 2009, 08:36 PM |
Heh... I'll give you an example from myself - I can accomplish level 6 in rythming and I'm fighting hard with level 2-3 soloing
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Jan 23 2009, 08:51 PM
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Absolutely terrific idea...I would love to participate.
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Jan 23 2009, 09:19 PM |
Great idea! It will be difficult to organize/set up all this thing, but it will be worth of it. At the end, progress is what GMC is all about!
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Jan 23 2009, 09:23 PM
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I really like this idea. Hopefully the powers that be can figure out a way to make it work. Has a lot of potential I think.
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